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Jonathan Engler's avatar

As Clare mentioned, I was there too, and I regret not asking Tracey Brown this during the Q&A, as I wasn’t then aware of it:

"Do you still believe Fauci was standing up for science in 2020 and do you have any regrets for awarding a prize to him for so doing?”

https://senseaboutscience.org/activities/maddox-prize-2020/

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David White (Oz Dave)'s avatar

⚖️ When it comes to the Covid injections, perhaps Tracey could respond to an issue that is one of ethics. Australian independent researcher Elizabeth Hart, with a new paper on ‘voluntary informed consent’: https://open.substack.com/pub/elizabethhart/p/misfeasance-in-public-office?r=20pd6j&utm_medium=ios

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Toffeepud's avatar

Too busy handing out awards to liars and fraudsters.....

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Amat's avatar

How can you defend the indefensible, I wonder if one of her "pressing deadlines" is to catch a fast plane ride to an unknown destination. She dos not represent science she represents dogma and follows whatever political narrative is at play, I am sure she will be well rewarded.

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JB's avatar

Read Walter Block 'Defending the Indefensible' is absolutely brilliant😄. However he wouldn't defend Tracey

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JB's avatar

No wonder she is running away from your letter, it must feel like a checkmate move. She certainly fails the John Stuart Mills test. Never forget Claire (and your colleagues) - you are on the right side of history.

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Sunny B's avatar

Science is bought out and the outcomes flawed to suit .... 🤑🤑

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Marco's avatar

Clare, I admire your tenacity, integrity and ethical compass guiding your search for the Truth. The other party seems to lack such attributes. Not a scientist..more like a bureaucrat who has got to the top of a little empire whose survival depends on pushing a certain narrative.

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Baldmichael's avatar

'Sense about Science' will anagram to 'obeisance cuteness' which perhaps reinforces your well made point.

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Brian Finney's avatar

Sense about Science funders https://senseaboutscience.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Annual-Review-2021_22-WITH-COVER-1.pdf

Plenty of SaS funders with a need to maintain their research funds ie don't rock the boat or ..........

Just saying

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Carl Jackaman's avatar

I too wrote to SaS, about their response to you. I doubt it will be responded to. If it does I'll let you know.

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Steven Johnston's avatar

There is a challenge out there to prove the existence of the virus. To my knowledge, that simple challenge is being avoided by Clare and others in the "Truth Freedom" movement.

Hypocrisy. It's a real thing.

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Clare Craig's avatar

I have set out clearly why the virus model is in use.

It is imperfect - like every scientific model - but it serves a purpose.

Until there is an alternative model that better describes all the evidence it is the one I am going to use.

https://www.hartgroup.org/virus-model/

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Steven Johnston's avatar

All of the evidence shows that there was and is no unique, identified or identifiable illness.

We know that PCR is not a test. We know that the overwhelming majority of people who tested positive for covidc19 had no symptoms. We know that people who died in care and hospital settings were automatically listed as dying with covid irrespective of what actually killed them (probably more often than not inappropriate treatments). We know that nobody ever isolated sars cov 2, let alone prove that it caused illness in anybody. We know that sars cov 2 only exists inside a computer program. We know that sars cov 2 respected borders (which is impossible). We know that all efforts in human experiments during the 19th and 20th centuries to prove contagion failed.

We also know that you and others are running away from those who

have established that viruses have never been proven to exist.

You have a model. We know how well models work. Ask Neil Ferguson.

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Chill The Monk Out's avatar

There really is no response to that original letter if you’re an honest person other than doh, I think you might have a point. It really did kick but 😊

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