I feel so bereft of agency. Helpless. Impotent. Throwing lifelines to drowning people which are ignored, while the anvil throwers are celebrated by the zeitgeist. It’s terribly dispiriting. I can only imagine that for those whose focus is even more intense, this sentiment must be orders of magnitude worse. Please accept my small token of written gratitude.
This is a novel virus and a novel vaccine that is not even remotely tested or comparable to the standard operating procedures. Over 30 years of research on mRND brought us nothing to market, yet they sold it to a very large number of naive people who were told this will save your life and allow your freedoms back. All lies and misinformation, this whole pandemic was planned for years, it’s a profit driven conspiracy with depopulation and sterilizing results. We have to reduce our carbon emissions and increase our technology to replace humans.
Claire I’m currently looking at ONS death by vax status covering April 2021 to May 2023.
Your article went into depth on the skewing numbers and agree I think the ONS are now captured. But even the figures they are producing aren’t shining a good light on the vaccine.
I’m simplifying and I know there will someone ready to disagree but….
I first was looking at All Cause deaths and bearing in mind the proportion of vax to unvax changed over the two years but you would expect if the vax was safe it would have no affect on either groups mortality proportional to each other . And in the beginning if the virus was as deadly as they claimed the unvaccinated should be disproportionately dying in higher numbers.
This clearly isn’t the case according to their ‘Table 2’ sheet.
As an example, Ideally you would adjust the numbers of the unvaccinated to be proportional to the vaxxed.
According to the uk dashboard end of 2022 approx 90% were vaccinated and 10% not. So every unvaccinated death should be multiplied by 9. Hell I’m feeling generous lets times it by 10. So if 10 unvaccinated died then there should be 100 vaxxed died also! Crude but you get the jist.
For the younger groups this was balanced but the older the worse it became.
November 2022 343 unvaccinated died in the 80-89 age group. 13,616 died in the vaccinated group with 10,965 deaths in 4th booster cohort. There should have been approx 3,430 deaths in the vaxxed 🤷🏻♂️!!
The other significant revelation I found was interesting! Covid deaths! According to the current UK covid dashboard there have been 194,509 deaths with covid on the death certificate “deaths involving covid” according to this spreadsheet only 56,782 Deaths involving covid over the two years.
Off the top of my head there officially was 74,500 deaths involving covid 2020-21 and 64,700 in 2021-22. Something isn’t adding up!!🤔🧐
Dr Clare Craig, I have some graphs to send you which (from ONS data) show that in various age groups the vaccine increases the probability of death. In November ONS decided to stop publishing the vaccine status of deaths. It seems that the government has something to hide. Please can you email me so that I can respond with my graphs.
You aren't reading the ONS Table 2 correctly. It shows both the number of person-years and the mortality rate for each vaccination status.
For 80-89 age, Nov 2022, it was 4060 person-years unvaccinated and 162660 for 4th dose, a factor of 40 difference. The mortality rate for the 4th dose cohort is somewhat less than for the unvaccinated.
It's a rookie mistake: assuming that the proportion vaccinated is constant across age groups. Many misstatements about vaccination are the result of not adjusting for the fact that the unvaccinated are disproportionately younger than the vaccinated and naturally have a lower mortality risk.
It is not now, never was, and never will be a vaccine. It is a highly-dangerous genetic 'therapy', aka a bioweapon, aka a 'vaccine'.
Forget government-adjusted statistics, try basic human biology/immune response, if you are not convinced these things will kill/maim in more ways than there are stars in the sky.
It is not now, never was, and never will be a vaccine. It is a highly-dangerous genetic 'therapy', aka a bioweapon, aka a 'vaccine'.
And anyway, the data is flawed from the get-go, as they count someone as 'unvaccinated' for no less than 2 wks post jab, and single-dosed for the same period after the 2nd jab etc.
The vast majority of short-term deaths occur within the two-week period, during which the data will count the 'vaccinated' deaths as' unvaccinated' and make the jab look much safer than it was during the roll-out.
I'm not sure like at what point this mythology started that they told people heard immunity was the goal but that may have been the political and public health rhetoric but that certainly was not the rhetoric coming out of the CEOs of these vaccine companies, Bill Gates or even fauci because I remember the interviews at the end of 2020 when these people were telling everybody on MSNBC on CNN Etc that it was not going to keep you from getting the virus it was just going to keep you from developing the disease and going to the hospital. So while political figures in public health officials may have lied or been confused about this the people that were really selling this to the public the vaccine manufacturers and the public health Superstars were telling everyone the truth and everyone ignored it or they didn't see that information. They did not pivot and those interviews are still out there on YouTube and other platforms. I'm not picking on people but unfortunately this speaks to how checked out cognitively and information wise the American public is when they don't even know this happening or they're not aware of it and they just continue to repeat the same talking points that are fairly inaccurate at times.
Nope. There are plenty of videos of Fauci and Walenski stating that if vaccinated, you could neither get nor spread the disease. They changed their tunes, some of them, once it became apparent that the vaccine did not perform as advertised.
Trump stumped on the vaccine in his debates with Biden. He really didn't pivot until he got booed in Alabama for suggesting people get the vaccine. He didn't try to mandate the garbage shot like the other side I will give him that. This isn't left and right it is "Right and Wrong". Both sides of the isle were pushing this agenda in the beginning.
Clare: TY. I just heard your interview with Dr. Campbell — excellent. FYI, I'm a physicist who has been quite involved with COVID. Here is my website "C19Science.info". I also have a substack, which is about Critical Thinking. Several of my posts are about COVID — like this "https://criticallythinking.substack.com/p/critically-thinking-about-a-key-covid". Feel free to email me: "aaprjohn" at "northnet" dot "org". — john droz, jr.
I find all this arguing over data frustrating when it it obvious vaccines never have and never will be good for one's health. I did look at the statistics in 2020/2021 and did a few articles on my WordPress site. Despite having studied them at school and into university in part, it was very hard work. Still in 2020 it was obvious to me what the issues were.
It is very sad that these numbers are no longer supplied. I can only presume that people were getting too close to the truth. The ONS have definitely fallen over with the new excess death calculation.
The paper isn't up to date vis the latest ONS publication through May 2023, I expect an extension of the horror story we currently experience to continue.
You say: "Vaccination should have no impact on non-covid mortality." This seems to be a critical assumption in your article.
However, there is evidence that many diseases can result from or be exacerbated by Covid. These aren't necessary recorded as "involving Covid" on death certificates. That being the case, an effective vaccine will have an impact in reducing these diseases relative to the unvaccinated. The "involving Covid" numbers are useful in a qualitative way to identify the timing and duration of an outbreak, but they cannot be used as a quantitative measure of the impact of Covid.
It is best to stick with the all-cause numbers for quantitative analysis and avoid Covid/non-Covid numbers for that purpose.
Maybe you have seen this. I am not sure how to argue against this. But wondering where the vaccinated/unvaccinated status is based on. This piece is now used to prove that the vaccines saved lives.
I know something's wrong but cant put my finger on it.
"I find that Table 5 contains significant errors in the data provided for year 2022, suggesting that great caution be used in interpreting the data for some age groups but making the data invalid in others."
I'll add a link to a paper (pdf) on cardiac deaths by phinance technologies. If you view the charts carefully the trend in recent missing data can be clearly seen. I'll add that the latest ONS data updates the data series through May 2023, hence the paper should be revised and re-issued.
I feel so bereft of agency. Helpless. Impotent. Throwing lifelines to drowning people which are ignored, while the anvil throwers are celebrated by the zeitgeist. It’s terribly dispiriting. I can only imagine that for those whose focus is even more intense, this sentiment must be orders of magnitude worse. Please accept my small token of written gratitude.
Well said. I feel the same.
The universal lying is the worst - apart from the many innocent people dying.
Somehow we must reverse that ONS decision: it is unconscionable. Unreasonable. And deeply suspicious.
This is a novel virus and a novel vaccine that is not even remotely tested or comparable to the standard operating procedures. Over 30 years of research on mRND brought us nothing to market, yet they sold it to a very large number of naive people who were told this will save your life and allow your freedoms back. All lies and misinformation, this whole pandemic was planned for years, it’s a profit driven conspiracy with depopulation and sterilizing results. We have to reduce our carbon emissions and increase our technology to replace humans.
Claire I’m currently looking at ONS death by vax status covering April 2021 to May 2023.
Your article went into depth on the skewing numbers and agree I think the ONS are now captured. But even the figures they are producing aren’t shining a good light on the vaccine.
I’m simplifying and I know there will someone ready to disagree but….
I first was looking at All Cause deaths and bearing in mind the proportion of vax to unvax changed over the two years but you would expect if the vax was safe it would have no affect on either groups mortality proportional to each other . And in the beginning if the virus was as deadly as they claimed the unvaccinated should be disproportionately dying in higher numbers.
This clearly isn’t the case according to their ‘Table 2’ sheet.
As an example, Ideally you would adjust the numbers of the unvaccinated to be proportional to the vaxxed.
According to the uk dashboard end of 2022 approx 90% were vaccinated and 10% not. So every unvaccinated death should be multiplied by 9. Hell I’m feeling generous lets times it by 10. So if 10 unvaccinated died then there should be 100 vaxxed died also! Crude but you get the jist.
For the younger groups this was balanced but the older the worse it became.
November 2022 343 unvaccinated died in the 80-89 age group. 13,616 died in the vaccinated group with 10,965 deaths in 4th booster cohort. There should have been approx 3,430 deaths in the vaxxed 🤷🏻♂️!!
The other significant revelation I found was interesting! Covid deaths! According to the current UK covid dashboard there have been 194,509 deaths with covid on the death certificate “deaths involving covid” according to this spreadsheet only 56,782 Deaths involving covid over the two years.
Off the top of my head there officially was 74,500 deaths involving covid 2020-21 and 64,700 in 2021-22. Something isn’t adding up!!🤔🧐
Thank you. Table 5 (which is whole population not just sample) has 60k covid deaths - which tallies with dashboard total from April 2021.
However, 12k are missing from table 2.
Dr Clare Craig, I have some graphs to send you which (from ONS data) show that in various age groups the vaccine increases the probability of death. In November ONS decided to stop publishing the vaccine status of deaths. It seems that the government has something to hide. Please can you email me so that I can respond with my graphs.
Thanks
You aren't reading the ONS Table 2 correctly. It shows both the number of person-years and the mortality rate for each vaccination status.
For 80-89 age, Nov 2022, it was 4060 person-years unvaccinated and 162660 for 4th dose, a factor of 40 difference. The mortality rate for the 4th dose cohort is somewhat less than for the unvaccinated.
It's a rookie mistake: assuming that the proportion vaccinated is constant across age groups. Many misstatements about vaccination are the result of not adjusting for the fact that the unvaccinated are disproportionately younger than the vaccinated and naturally have a lower mortality risk.
It is not now, never was, and never will be a vaccine. It is a highly-dangerous genetic 'therapy', aka a bioweapon, aka a 'vaccine'.
Forget government-adjusted statistics, try basic human biology/immune response, if you are not convinced these things will kill/maim in more ways than there are stars in the sky.
Assuming there is no difference in non-COVID mortality between the two cohorts of course?!
It is not now, never was, and never will be a vaccine. It is a highly-dangerous genetic 'therapy', aka a bioweapon, aka a 'vaccine'.
And anyway, the data is flawed from the get-go, as they count someone as 'unvaccinated' for no less than 2 wks post jab, and single-dosed for the same period after the 2nd jab etc.
The vast majority of short-term deaths occur within the two-week period, during which the data will count the 'vaccinated' deaths as' unvaccinated' and make the jab look much safer than it was during the roll-out.
And we let them get away with hiding the data.
We let them get away with CULLING modern moron slaves...
I'm not sure like at what point this mythology started that they told people heard immunity was the goal but that may have been the political and public health rhetoric but that certainly was not the rhetoric coming out of the CEOs of these vaccine companies, Bill Gates or even fauci because I remember the interviews at the end of 2020 when these people were telling everybody on MSNBC on CNN Etc that it was not going to keep you from getting the virus it was just going to keep you from developing the disease and going to the hospital. So while political figures in public health officials may have lied or been confused about this the people that were really selling this to the public the vaccine manufacturers and the public health Superstars were telling everyone the truth and everyone ignored it or they didn't see that information. They did not pivot and those interviews are still out there on YouTube and other platforms. I'm not picking on people but unfortunately this speaks to how checked out cognitively and information wise the American public is when they don't even know this happening or they're not aware of it and they just continue to repeat the same talking points that are fairly inaccurate at times.
Nope. There are plenty of videos of Fauci and Walenski stating that if vaccinated, you could neither get nor spread the disease. They changed their tunes, some of them, once it became apparent that the vaccine did not perform as advertised.
and Biden. and Rachel maddow etc
Trump stumped on the vaccine in his debates with Biden. He really didn't pivot until he got booed in Alabama for suggesting people get the vaccine. He didn't try to mandate the garbage shot like the other side I will give him that. This isn't left and right it is "Right and Wrong". Both sides of the isle were pushing this agenda in the beginning.
Yep. Others too. And with the stupid masks as well.
https://x.com/justin_hart/status/1708823874580992368
Frank's brain died a while ago... He just doesn't know it yet!
Clare: TY. I just heard your interview with Dr. Campbell — excellent. FYI, I'm a physicist who has been quite involved with COVID. Here is my website "C19Science.info". I also have a substack, which is about Critical Thinking. Several of my posts are about COVID — like this "https://criticallythinking.substack.com/p/critically-thinking-about-a-key-covid". Feel free to email me: "aaprjohn" at "northnet" dot "org". — john droz, jr.
Thanks for your excellent work! I'm not sure if the ONS data release is more light or heat producing. https://ulflorr.substack.com/p/lunatic-results-from-british-death
I find all this arguing over data frustrating when it it obvious vaccines never have and never will be good for one's health. I did look at the statistics in 2020/2021 and did a few articles on my WordPress site. Despite having studied them at school and into university in part, it was very hard work. Still in 2020 it was obvious to me what the issues were.
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/s-is-for-statistics/
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/why-vaccines-do-not-work-in-a-nutshell
It is very sad that these numbers are no longer supplied. I can only presume that people were getting too close to the truth. The ONS have definitely fallen over with the new excess death calculation.
Hi Joel, Thanks for this link. I've left a couple of comments there, and this link :
https://phinancetechnologies.com/HumanityProjects/UK Cause of Death/Report V-Damage Analysis - Cardiovascular 15-44 – V3.pdf
The paper isn't up to date vis the latest ONS publication through May 2023, I expect an extension of the horror story we currently experience to continue.
So... the m[iracle]RNA toxic spew jabs are just working as expected!
https://postimg.cc/7GtmSf5D
Culling the the herds of MMS/3i's in order for Them to try to secure Their Future.
You say: "Vaccination should have no impact on non-covid mortality." This seems to be a critical assumption in your article.
However, there is evidence that many diseases can result from or be exacerbated by Covid. These aren't necessary recorded as "involving Covid" on death certificates. That being the case, an effective vaccine will have an impact in reducing these diseases relative to the unvaccinated. The "involving Covid" numbers are useful in a qualitative way to identify the timing and duration of an outbreak, but they cannot be used as a quantitative measure of the impact of Covid.
It is best to stick with the all-cause numbers for quantitative analysis and avoid Covid/non-Covid numbers for that purpose.
What is "COVID"?!
Just a name given to explain why 2,820 unvaccinated people died in England in December 2021 and only 1,436 unvaccinated people died in June 2022.
Do you get it?
Ah! For a moment I thought it could be some dreadful disease...
If you read it again you are in my comment!
https://twitter.com/tylerblack32/status/1707864004344049897
Maybe you have seen this. I am not sure how to argue against this. But wondering where the vaccinated/unvaccinated status is based on. This piece is now used to prove that the vaccines saved lives.
I know something's wrong but cant put my finger on it.
Maybe you can?
Or someone else reading this thread
I did some work on ONS data published 21 February 2023. There may be a later, similar report.
https://richarda697.substack.com/p/vaccination-status-error-estimates
"I find that Table 5 contains significant errors in the data provided for year 2022, suggesting that great caution be used in interpreting the data for some age groups but making the data invalid in others."
I'll add a link to a paper (pdf) on cardiac deaths by phinance technologies. If you view the charts carefully the trend in recent missing data can be clearly seen. I'll add that the latest ONS data updates the data series through May 2023, hence the paper should be revised and re-issued.
https://phinancetechnologies.com/HumanityProjects/UK Cause of Death/Report V-Damage Analysis - Cardiovascular 15-44 – V3.pdf