I concur. A fantastic breakdown of the available evidence.
I am a bit surprised though, there is no mention of the work, the Italian professor, Dr. Gabriele Segalla has uncovered. Clearly showing BioNTech/Pfizer and the EMA knew the vaccines were toxic,.. a full year before the rollout. The evidence is so damning, it has launched 3 legal proceedings in Italy against them for willful misconduct and gross negligence... https://ohbaby.substack.com/p/biontechpfizer-and-the-ema-knew-the
You are making an ass of yourself, Will. But to each their own...
I have already quoted Clare in reply to you below, which you choose to ignore, and not bothered to address. Mainly because the evidence soundly defeats your pigheaded rants on blood clots. So it is obvious I have read her fantastic article. Which makes the rest of your response,... a very childish effort to attack and antagonize a moot point.
And why would I want to engage with someone who doesn't look at the evidence, and persists in crusading stuff learned high school biology. I really don't know how anyone can think a simple biological process can be some sort of hidden secret or discovery. LOL!
I guess the simple example of a sore throat went right over your head.
Edit:
To all those not following along this crusade of Will's,.. of how cytotoxic T cells are the be all, end all, to COVID and/or vaccine injury, let me quickly explain how they are only a fraction of damage caused. No immune cells work alone. In fact, cytotoxic CD8 T cells don't even enter the arena, unless one has acquired immunity (previously infected or vaccinated). They are part of adaptive immunity. And that takes a full week after infection or vaccination for adaptive immunity to kick in. So let's assume, Will is referring to everyone having acquired immunity. Because killer T cells are different from CD8 T cells, and in most of his 100 some odd posts flooding this comment section, he speaks of CD8's. So right off the bat, you can see how in many cases, mainly early in the pandemic, cytotoxic CD8 T cells weren't even involved in the battle. No one had acquired immunity, and there were no vaccines at that time. And yet,... people dropped like flies early on. So, it's obvious that cytotoxic T cells, aren't the only cause of COVID injury, disease and death. Yet Will thinks they are the cause of everything we see. He is dead wrong and deluded.
Without an antigen, like the inflammatory spike and LNPs, there would be no immune response. So for him to continue to wail...."Not inflammatory spike. Not LNPs. Why is everyone being so PATHETIC AND RETARDED?'... Is very silly. The spike and LNP's have been shown to be toxic and damaging to cells, all on their own. It's not just the immune response causing damage.... https://ohbaby.substack.com/p/biontechpfizer-and-the-ema-knew-the
If the damage were all the result of the immune response, then why would those with compromised, weakened, or suppressed immunity, be at such a high risk for severe disease? Or put it another way. If cytotoxic T cells were solely responsible for all the damage during this pandemic. Then why haven't millions died in waves until now? It all has to do with how dangerous the pathogen is. The Spanish flu, measles, COVID all differ in toxicity. Never forget, SARS-CoV-2 was designed to inflict harm... https://ohbaby.substack.com/p/how-to-live-with-the-sars-cov-2-virus
It's always about the pathogen and how it evades, over-excites or overwhelms the immune response.
It's now obvious you haven't read Clare's article. As she clearly answers your question on asymptomatic.
And if a sore throat is very easy to understand, why on earth do you believe very few,... comprehend T cells role in COVID? It just doesn't make sense. You ask me, that Is retarded.
This letter to Professor Lawton incredible, a clear explanation of the situation. As an interested but complete uncovid-vaccinated lay person, It seems shocking to me that more about all this should have come out earlier and been available to educate people. i apologise if my comment seems out of place. PS. I have previously listened and enjoyed your chats with Dr John Campbell.
Your point is well taken: the information was indeed difficult to find. ... not, however, due to the efforts of many people who tried to put it out, but due to the variety of censorship techniques employed to keep it from ready view.
Dear Clare, thanks for the detailed analysis, including references to many peer-reviewed studies (even if now a recognisably problematic category, however) generously offered. I hope that Professor Lawton is able to take your advice and consider the evidence, instead of the routine dogmas pushed by the ‘safe and effective’ lobby. Sadly, there are still none so blind as those who will not see.
Excellent write-up. This s/could be considered as Fraud by Misrepresentation under UK Legislation or even an International Criminal Court matter, I would hope that it is being considered by those with the legal competence. Not wishing to have an answer made public far better to keep the powder dry.
It is clear from your explanation that the complex statistical evidence was almost certainly deliberately used to deceive members of the public and lull them into a false sense of security.
Sadly many long Covid groups still advocate additional boosters to those suffering from “long Covid” and are almost certainly causing even greater harm to those suffering from this unpleasant condition.
Thank you for your painstaking efforts to shed light on the facts.
Yes, this is one of the more obvious but least discussed and understood aspects of the "Vaccines" and spikes. Put simply, they don't belong sticking out of cells lining narrow capillaries where they provide mechanical resistance to blood flow and also induce an inflammatory immune response, both of which result in blood clots.
Disagree. Both are correct and Clare "liked" the comment. The process you describe results in local INFLAMMATION, causing restriction in blood flow, which results in clotting. I stand by my remarks.
Yes, it's shocking how many opinion leaders believe that inflammation is a core process in clotting. I'm not defending "opinion leaders" per se because Covid experience has shown....
But I'm sure you know better than all this opinion by immunologists and others.
Incidentally, if you choose to comment on her Stack, you might at least spell Clare's name correctly, out of a little respect?
All you have to do is look at NLRP3 activity to see that inflammatory signaling can initiate clotting independently of direct cellular destruction by cytotoxic T cells.
Surely, when the major histocompatibility complex holds up fragments of the spike protein WHILE IT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED, and the fragments are recognized as non-self, a chain of events is started which results in the death of the cell producing it.
So - yes, the protruding fragments are too small to cause a blockage, but result in the damage you refer to.
Whilst loose language may be irritating, one has to weigh up the rhetorical cost of appearing to bicker pedantically.
Prof Lawton, I offer a shorter rebuttal, for your consideration, that it is not long COVID. Consider the importance of truth here, as doing so may very well save your mother's life. Do not view this as partisan, but an alternate consideration of grave importance.
In April 2021, the NHS acknowledged in their ICU guidance that VITT (vaccine-associated thrombocytopenia and thrombosis; or put simply, the COVID-19 vaccines interfere with and cause micro-clotting events) is a real, life-threatening phenomena:
Whilst the paperwork states it is associated more strongly with AstraZeneca, the truth of the matter is all COVID-19 shots pose this fundamental risk, as it is associated with the spike protein. If this isn't sufficient, I submit this medical case report revealing an association between mRNA shots and thrombotic (blood clotting) events: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589238X21000668
If you wish to read the compendium of medical case reports showing adverse events regarding a whole slew of COVID-19 vaccines - an unprecedented number, unparalleled in medical industry - you will find a compiled list here, which include titles and links/references:
It is not a complete list, but if your intention is to save a life, should you not investigate all avenues Prof Lawton? I submit this for your consideration.
Man, get off your high horse. You really don't have a clue, and Girardot is no expert by any stretch of the imagination. Learn about NLRP3, Gq/11 pathways - just to start.
You might be making a mountain out of a mole hill here, Will. The proximal cause of clotting may well be the damage to cells resulting from the action of killer T lymphocytes, but the reason killer T lymphocytes attack the cells is because they present a foreign protein, which happens to be the spike protein. So the others are merely ascribing the clotting to a slightly more distal cause in the chain.
I take your point about inflammation to be valid, though.
I'm not discussing Hirshman clots, though. Nothing to do with understanding.
I discussed VITT, which is both a platelet depletion and micro-clotting event triggered by vaccination.
My rebuttal to long COVID-19 is short and to the point. It's up to them if they read the ICU guidance and recognise the vaccines for the threat they are.
I don't know why anyone would try to overcomplicate my work or blame the immune system for what is a problem clearly being caused by vaccines.
This is the most helpful document I have seen to date. It must have taken a very long time to write this and I, and I’m sure many others alongside, are very (very!) grateful for that time. To have it all set out in one place, so clearly and comprehensively, is a powerful tool.
One thing to check quickly. In section 5, when you speak of the number of RNA molecules per cell, do you mean 14 “trillion” (for Pfizer) as opposed to “million”? It is self evident really that it is a typo, but would be helpful to have that confirmed by you. I don’t want anyone I direct this to have scope to make a pedantic “debunking” point on accuracy, so to detract from the coherence of the rest.
Beautifully written- the must share post to those friends and family who haven’t yet realised. Except I don’t bother anymore as unfortunately they don’t want to hear (I have experience!)
Superb analysis.
I concur. A fantastic breakdown of the available evidence.
I am a bit surprised though, there is no mention of the work, the Italian professor, Dr. Gabriele Segalla has uncovered. Clearly showing BioNTech/Pfizer and the EMA knew the vaccines were toxic,.. a full year before the rollout. The evidence is so damning, it has launched 3 legal proceedings in Italy against them for willful misconduct and gross negligence... https://ohbaby.substack.com/p/biontechpfizer-and-the-ema-knew-the
Do we have the isolation and purification of this new bird flu?
Avian flu virus H5N1: No proof for existence, pathogenicity, or pandemic potential; non-“H5N1” causation omitted
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7173052/
More fakery from the wizards
Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel Says They ‘Copied & Pasted’ the Spike Sequence From the Chinese Government
https://open.substack.com/pub/lionessofjudah/p/moderna-ceo-we-never-had-access-to?r=145evj&utm_medium=ios
Do we have the isolation and purification documents of Covid 19 it appears it never existed?
FOIs reveal that health/science institutions around the world (225 and counting!) have no record of SARS-COV-2 isolation/purification, anywhere, ever
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois-reveal-that-health-science-institutions-around-the-world-have-no-record-of-sars-cov-2-isolation-purification/
They knew contagion didn't exist after the 1923 Lancaster Study, but they continued to push the fear narrative to keep a control on humanity.
https://en.rattibha.com/thread/1629159544348717061
ABOUT A YEAR INTO THE KANSAS FLU A STUDY CAME OUT CALLED THE THE
LANDMARK STUDY OF MILTON J.
ROSENAU, MD, "EXPERIMENTS TO DETERMINE MODE OF SPREAD OF INFLUENZA," WAS PUBLISHED IN THE JOURNAL OF THE AMERICAN MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION IN 1919.
https://www.ggarchives.com/Influenza/TheRosenauExperiment-1918-1919.html
You are making an ass of yourself, Will. But to each their own...
I have already quoted Clare in reply to you below, which you choose to ignore, and not bothered to address. Mainly because the evidence soundly defeats your pigheaded rants on blood clots. So it is obvious I have read her fantastic article. Which makes the rest of your response,... a very childish effort to attack and antagonize a moot point.
And why would I want to engage with someone who doesn't look at the evidence, and persists in crusading stuff learned high school biology. I really don't know how anyone can think a simple biological process can be some sort of hidden secret or discovery. LOL!
I guess the simple example of a sore throat went right over your head.
Edit:
To all those not following along this crusade of Will's,.. of how cytotoxic T cells are the be all, end all, to COVID and/or vaccine injury, let me quickly explain how they are only a fraction of damage caused. No immune cells work alone. In fact, cytotoxic CD8 T cells don't even enter the arena, unless one has acquired immunity (previously infected or vaccinated). They are part of adaptive immunity. And that takes a full week after infection or vaccination for adaptive immunity to kick in. So let's assume, Will is referring to everyone having acquired immunity. Because killer T cells are different from CD8 T cells, and in most of his 100 some odd posts flooding this comment section, he speaks of CD8's. So right off the bat, you can see how in many cases, mainly early in the pandemic, cytotoxic CD8 T cells weren't even involved in the battle. No one had acquired immunity, and there were no vaccines at that time. And yet,... people dropped like flies early on. So, it's obvious that cytotoxic T cells, aren't the only cause of COVID injury, disease and death. Yet Will thinks they are the cause of everything we see. He is dead wrong and deluded.
Without an antigen, like the inflammatory spike and LNPs, there would be no immune response. So for him to continue to wail...."Not inflammatory spike. Not LNPs. Why is everyone being so PATHETIC AND RETARDED?'... Is very silly. The spike and LNP's have been shown to be toxic and damaging to cells, all on their own. It's not just the immune response causing damage.... https://ohbaby.substack.com/p/biontechpfizer-and-the-ema-knew-the
If the damage were all the result of the immune response, then why would those with compromised, weakened, or suppressed immunity, be at such a high risk for severe disease? Or put it another way. If cytotoxic T cells were solely responsible for all the damage during this pandemic. Then why haven't millions died in waves until now? It all has to do with how dangerous the pathogen is. The Spanish flu, measles, COVID all differ in toxicity. Never forget, SARS-CoV-2 was designed to inflict harm... https://ohbaby.substack.com/p/how-to-live-with-the-sars-cov-2-virus
It's always about the pathogen and how it evades, over-excites or overwhelms the immune response.
It's now obvious you haven't read Clare's article. As she clearly answers your question on asymptomatic.
And if a sore throat is very easy to understand, why on earth do you believe very few,... comprehend T cells role in COVID? It just doesn't make sense. You ask me, that Is retarded.
Gosh! I bet not a single UK newspaper will report this faithfully.
Superbly composed. This will be a shock to many. First stage of grief is denial. Globe needs to brace for stage 2.
This letter to Professor Lawton incredible, a clear explanation of the situation. As an interested but complete uncovid-vaccinated lay person, It seems shocking to me that more about all this should have come out earlier and been available to educate people. i apologise if my comment seems out of place. PS. I have previously listened and enjoyed your chats with Dr John Campbell.
Kind regards Rosemary Wellman
Your point is well taken: the information was indeed difficult to find. ... not, however, due to the efforts of many people who tried to put it out, but due to the variety of censorship techniques employed to keep it from ready view.
I hope the Professor takes stock of these fantastic points and free's her mind from the ''safe and effective'' narrative.
https://biologyphenom.substack.com/p/scottish-covid-19-inquiry-impact-5d8?utm_source=publication-search
https://biologyphenom.substack.com/p/scottish-covid-19-inquiry-impact-279?utm_source=publication-search
Excellent write-up. Thank you.
Dear Clare, thanks for the detailed analysis, including references to many peer-reviewed studies (even if now a recognisably problematic category, however) generously offered. I hope that Professor Lawton is able to take your advice and consider the evidence, instead of the routine dogmas pushed by the ‘safe and effective’ lobby. Sadly, there are still none so blind as those who will not see.
Your response is superb, a great primer for those who are still in the dark, Clare. Many thanks for your hard work.
Excellent write-up. This s/could be considered as Fraud by Misrepresentation under UK Legislation or even an International Criminal Court matter, I would hope that it is being considered by those with the legal competence. Not wishing to have an answer made public far better to keep the powder dry.
An excellent appraisal. Congratulations.
It is clear from your explanation that the complex statistical evidence was almost certainly deliberately used to deceive members of the public and lull them into a false sense of security.
Sadly many long Covid groups still advocate additional boosters to those suffering from “long Covid” and are almost certainly causing even greater harm to those suffering from this unpleasant condition.
Thank you for your painstaking efforts to shed light on the facts.
Keep up the good work.
Yes, this is one of the more obvious but least discussed and understood aspects of the "Vaccines" and spikes. Put simply, they don't belong sticking out of cells lining narrow capillaries where they provide mechanical resistance to blood flow and also induce an inflammatory immune response, both of which result in blood clots.
Disagree. Both are correct and Clare "liked" the comment. The process you describe results in local INFLAMMATION, causing restriction in blood flow, which results in clotting. I stand by my remarks.
Yes, it's shocking how many opinion leaders believe that inflammation is a core process in clotting. I'm not defending "opinion leaders" per se because Covid experience has shown....
But I'm sure you know better than all this opinion by immunologists and others.
Incidentally, if you choose to comment on her Stack, you might at least spell Clare's name correctly, out of a little respect?
Total nonsense.
All you have to do is look at NLRP3 activity to see that inflammatory signaling can initiate clotting independently of direct cellular destruction by cytotoxic T cells.
According to you. And your qualifications are?
Surely, when the major histocompatibility complex holds up fragments of the spike protein WHILE IT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED, and the fragments are recognized as non-self, a chain of events is started which results in the death of the cell producing it.
So - yes, the protruding fragments are too small to cause a blockage, but result in the damage you refer to.
Whilst loose language may be irritating, one has to weigh up the rhetorical cost of appearing to bicker pedantically.
🙏 brilliant response
Prof Lawton, I offer a shorter rebuttal, for your consideration, that it is not long COVID. Consider the importance of truth here, as doing so may very well save your mother's life. Do not view this as partisan, but an alternate consideration of grave importance.
In April 2021, the NHS acknowledged in their ICU guidance that VITT (vaccine-associated thrombocytopenia and thrombosis; or put simply, the COVID-19 vaccines interfere with and cause micro-clotting events) is a real, life-threatening phenomena:
https://ics.ac.uk/static/467a8ac5-71da-4bc9-a43c44bf39d12db0/VITTguidelinesFinal.pdf
Whilst the paperwork states it is associated more strongly with AstraZeneca, the truth of the matter is all COVID-19 shots pose this fundamental risk, as it is associated with the spike protein. If this isn't sufficient, I submit this medical case report revealing an association between mRNA shots and thrombotic (blood clotting) events: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589238X21000668
If you wish to read the compendium of medical case reports showing adverse events regarding a whole slew of COVID-19 vaccines - an unprecedented number, unparalleled in medical industry - you will find a compiled list here, which include titles and links/references:
https://gitlab.com/TheUnderdog/general-research/-/blob/main/COVID-19-Shot-Questions/Part2/StudiesDatabase.csv
It is not a complete list, but if your intention is to save a life, should you not investigate all avenues Prof Lawton? I submit this for your consideration.
Man, get off your high horse. You really don't have a clue, and Girardot is no expert by any stretch of the imagination. Learn about NLRP3, Gq/11 pathways - just to start.
Go get some help.
You might be making a mountain out of a mole hill here, Will. The proximal cause of clotting may well be the damage to cells resulting from the action of killer T lymphocytes, but the reason killer T lymphocytes attack the cells is because they present a foreign protein, which happens to be the spike protein. So the others are merely ascribing the clotting to a slightly more distal cause in the chain.
I take your point about inflammation to be valid, though.
I care and thank you for mentioning these other important people. They have been leading with great gusto.
Keep your fire and passion ready for the next wave.
To address your hostile comment that does not present any evidence:
1) Clotting is a result of platelet activation via fibrinogen (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9653660/)
2) The spike proteins cause microclots to form by interacting with the platelets (this is a well known and well studied phenomena: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-36279-5)
3) The vaccines cause cells to mass produce these spike proteins (covered in the original article I replied to), which in turn causes clotting.
Could there be other clotting factors? Yes.
Am I going to drown Lawton in a wall of incomprehensible text covering every possible scenario not related to the vaccines? No.
I'm not discussing Hirshman clots, though. Nothing to do with understanding.
I discussed VITT, which is both a platelet depletion and micro-clotting event triggered by vaccination.
My rebuttal to long COVID-19 is short and to the point. It's up to them if they read the ICU guidance and recognise the vaccines for the threat they are.
I don't know why anyone would try to overcomplicate my work or blame the immune system for what is a problem clearly being caused by vaccines.
It isn't called 'IITT'.
This isn't your Substack, so your opinion doesn't matter to me.
This is the most helpful document I have seen to date. It must have taken a very long time to write this and I, and I’m sure many others alongside, are very (very!) grateful for that time. To have it all set out in one place, so clearly and comprehensively, is a powerful tool.
One thing to check quickly. In section 5, when you speak of the number of RNA molecules per cell, do you mean 14 “trillion” (for Pfizer) as opposed to “million”? It is self evident really that it is a typo, but would be helpful to have that confirmed by you. I don’t want anyone I direct this to have scope to make a pedantic “debunking” point on accuracy, so to detract from the coherence of the rest.
Thank you! - yes - corrected.
Just wow. We now need to send this to every GP practice in the UK. Claire you are our Meryl Nass MD. What a document.
What a violation on so many levels.
Thank you for your ability to summarize for the level of professor's.
Sincere thanks,
Ned S
Do we have the isolation and purification of this new bird flu?
Avian flu virus H5N1: No proof for existence, pathogenicity, or pandemic potential; non-“H5N1” causation omitted
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7173052/
More fakery from the wizards
Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel Says They ‘Copied & Pasted’ the Spike Sequence From the Chinese Government
https://open.substack.com/pub/lionessofjudah/p/moderna-ceo-we-never-had-access-to?r=145evj&utm_medium=ios
Do we have the isolation and purification documents of Covid 19 it appears it never existed?
FOIs reveal that health/science institutions around the world (225 and counting!) have no record of SARS-COV-2 isolation/purification, anywhere, ever
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/fois-reveal-that-health-science-institutions-around-the-world-have-no-record-of-sars-cov-2-isolation-purification/
They knew contagion didn't exist after the 1923 Lancaster Study, but they continued to push the fear narrative to keep a control on humanity.
https://en.rattibha.com/thread/1629159544348717061
ABOUT A YEAR INTO THE KANSAS FLU A STUDY CAME OUT CALLED THE THE
LANDMARK STUDY OF MILTON J.
ROSENAU, MD, "EXPERIMENTS TO DETERMINE MODE OF SPREAD OF INFLUENZA," WAS PUBLISHED IN THE JOURNAL OF THE AMERICAN MEDICAL
ASSOCIATION IN 1919.
https://www.ggarchives.com/Influenza/TheRosenauExperiment-1918-1919.html
Beautifully written- the must share post to those friends and family who haven’t yet realised. Except I don’t bother anymore as unfortunately they don’t want to hear (I have experience!)
Well done Claire 👏👏👏